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The 100th day
Today marks the 100th day since we announced SUP's purchase of LiveJournal from Six Apart, the formation of LiveJournal, Inc, and goals for the first 100 days. We've made some amazing progress since that announcement, and we're really proud of what we've accomplished in such a short period of time: the team in the U.S. is growing, we've gained a VP of Product Development, set up a San Francisco home for LiveJournal, and we're ramping up recruiting so we can continue to support and improve the service.

Additionally, we’ve made some great movements towards establishing clear policy guidelines, and will continue to gather your ideas on improving these proposed policies in the coming days. We also started setting up an Advisory Board to help guide LiveJournal in the right direction. Previously, we announced four of the members, and provided information on the roles they will play. When we made this announcement, we mentioned that two of the members will be representatives elected by you. Please read our latest entry in [info]lj_2008 for the details on when these elections will occur, and how they will be held.

There have been a number of other changes in the past 100 days as well. Some of these are more visible, such as our new comment expanding feature, the addition of an icon for entries filtered to custom friends group, and the ability to easily discover new content with Explore LJ. We've also made some improvements to LiveJournal's infrastructure; email notifications should now be faster, and we're in the process of making other changes which will improve the site's overall speed.

Other changes you may have noticed are the logged-out homepage and registration process for new users. We streamlined and simplified things so that now it’s faster and easier than ever to create a LiveJournal account.

After focusing time on some of the most requested features, we are looking forward to the future and seeing how we can continue to make LiveJournal even better. We want to honor the tradition of being a unique place to write, share, and keep in touch with friends, while also helping people find communities of people with interests similar to their own. Our goals for the future include continuing to improve the design of the site, extending LiveJournal’s reach throughout the world, and improving our ability to support users worldwide… all while continuing to provide a compelling place to write and express yourself.



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Basic accounts
[info]jasonshellen
2008-03-13 12:46 am UTC (link)
Hi, I'm Jason Shellen, VP of Product Development for LiveJournal. I just wanted to clarify LiveJournal's stance before there is any further misunderstanding about what we are trying to do. An FAQ about the account levels was updated prior to our news post. It states:

"Basic Account is an option available to accounts which were created before March 12, 2008. No account created after this date can be turned into a Basic Account."

Existing users of Basic remain as is.

From a product perspective it was more about creating a new registration process that was easier for new users to understand. I'm sure it's been ages since many of you signed up for an account, but it was quite confusing and included a table of options that was not very inviting to new users.

For new users to the site, the options of either having an ad-supported journal or the option to pay $20 annually for more (2GB) photo storage, more userpics, and ad-controls seems like a much simpler and easy to understand work-flow. We are working hard to add even more features and are currently revisiting our ad-supported strategy to find ways to deliver more user value in a way that isn't crass.

I sincerely hope you will continue to give us a chance to respond to concerns and that we do hear what you have to say about LiveJournal.

Edited at 2008-03-13 12:47 am UTC

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]rahaeli
2008-03-13 12:51 am UTC (link)
All business decisions aside, why did you not mention this fact in this news post, rather than letting people find out via word of mouth?

Also, you know, LJ users can see through spin like it wasn't even there. Dressing it up and saying it was to make things easier for new users is not going to fly: just come out and say that it was to increase ad impressions.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]idonotlikepeas
2008-03-13 12:52 am UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but this doesn't address two of the main issues at hand.

1) An account creation process containing three options is not dramatically more involved than an account creation process containing two options, so this change offers very little user-facing benefit.
2) This is a sufficiently large change to LiveJournal that it should have been mentioned explicitly in the news post. Attempting to avoid the issue by not discussing it was an extremely poor idea, and I for one would like to hear your justification for that.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]dawna
2008-03-13 12:56 am UTC (link)
I completely understand the business decision regarding the removal of basic account creation. As a user of LiveJournal, I don't agree with it and I certainly do not like it one bit. But my issue with this entire matter is the clear lack of communicating this fundamental change to the entire site in either this news post or its own news post.

It feels very underhanded that people have to find out about this via word of mouth and not from the company itself.

This will destroy a lot of the trust that a lot of us had in SUP, im afraid it is going to be very hard to gain that back.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]tiferet
2008-03-13 12:58 am UTC (link)
From a product perspective it was more about creating a new registration process that was easier for new users to understand. I'm sure it's been ages since many of you signed up for an account, but it was quite confusing and included a table of options that was not very inviting to new users.

Man. What did your bosses pay to have done to your nose that you can't smell your own bullshit, Jason?

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]foxfirefey
2008-03-13 12:58 am UTC (link)
From a product perspective it was more about creating a new registration process that was easier for new users to understand. I'm sure it's been ages since many of you signed up for an account, but it was quite confusing and included a table of options that was not very inviting to new users.

You didn't just remove the option from the registration to streamline it. You took out the option entirely, even for the people who knew the system and were willing to jump through the hoops. Many people make multiple accounts for various reason. You seem not to know this.

Additionally, you didn't consult the existing members of the much touted advisory board that was supposed to help you avoid such PR busts. If they didn't even hear about it officially, how are we supposed to be heard? That was supposed to be the whole point of the board.

Additionally, you tried to sneak it under the radar by not mentioning it in this [info]news post.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]malnpudl
2008-03-13 12:59 am UTC (link)
That was the wrong answer. Spin us bullshit and we'll smell it at a thousand paces.

Tell us straight out that it's a business decision and that revenue funds both maintenance and new development, and okay. That's an explanation that people can buy. They may not like it, but it makes sense.

And I'm with everyone else. This should have been publicly announced. Sneaky scores you no points.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]pauamma
2008-03-13 01:00 am UTC (link)
From a product perspective it was more about creating a new registration process that was easier for new users to understand. I'm sure it's been ages since many of you signed up for an account, but it was quite confusing and included a table of options that was not very inviting to new users.

For new users to the site, the options of either having an ad-supported journal or the option to pay $20 annually for more (2GB) photo storage, more userpics, and ad-controls seems like a much simpler and easy to understand work-flow.
Please tell me that this is sarcasm or a practical joke.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]adarkheartdawns
2008-03-13 01:01 am UTC (link)
Um, no, from a product perspective it was about ad hits. You've already done it and we obviously don't have a say, so don't bother trying to dress it up like we're idiots who will buy your business degree propaganda. Unlike myspace, many of us are actually adults with degrees of our own or teens with, what's the word, oh, brains.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]sabbrielle
2008-03-13 01:01 am UTC (link)
From a product perspective it was more about creating a new registration process that was easier for new users to understand. I'm sure it's been ages since many of you signed up for an account, but it was quite confusing and included a table of options that was not very inviting to new users.

For new users to the site, the options of either having an ad-supported journal or the option to pay $20 annually for more (2GB) photo storage, more userpics, and ad-controls seems like a much simpler and easy to understand work-flow.


What exactly do you take us for?

As Vice President of Product Development, I'm sure you know that trust between a corporation and its consumers is the foundation of long-term success. These flippant violations of consumer expectations may increase revenue in the short term--fill upper managements' pockets--but will ultimately lead to the downfall of the company. Being upper management though, I doubt that you mind.

If I seem rude, forgive me. Being presumed an idiot makes me a little testy.

Edited at 2008-03-13 01:03 am UTC

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]soleta
2008-03-13 01:02 am UTC (link)
You do realize that it would have been simpler, easier, and would have gotten you much less flack from existing LJ users if you'd just redesigned the signup process? (which I'm not arguing was involved and ridiculous, having gone through it just a couple of weeks ago. It was obnoxious, and I know what everything does... but somehow I doubt you've changed anything that would have actually streamlined it.)

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]ceilidh
2008-03-13 01:02 am UTC (link)
That is the biggest load of spin I have ever seen in my life. You wanted to take out Basic because it doesn't make you money, plain and simple. Just admit it, okay? We really are not as stupid as you apparently think we are.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]jennem
2008-03-13 01:03 am UTC (link)
New users aren't fucking idiots. They understand the difference between no ads and ads. This isn't rocket science.

Here's what you did:

1. You failed to ask your user-base's opinion on this matter.
2. You, apparently, asked your advisory committee its opinion, but you failed to follow its advice.
3. You failed to inform your advisory committee that you were making this drastic change.
4. You failed to inform your user-base that you were making this drastic change.
5. You attempt to justify this drastic change on the fact that WE'RE ALL TOO FUCKING STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.

No. Really. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.

Here's a fucking clue. If you want to simplify and streamline your process, here's what you do. You post something like this as a part of the "new user" FAQ:

* Basic Account -- no ads, no cost, but minimal features. (the old "Free Account")
* Plus Account -- ads, no cost, medium feature set.
* Paid Account -- no ads, costs money, get everything.

There. PROBLEM FUCKING SOLVED.

We aren't fucking morons, Jason Shellen, and justifying your drastic fuckup on the basis that we are fucking morons? IS SO NOT GOING TO FUCKING HELP YOU.


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Re: Basic accounts
[info]lady_ganesh
2008-03-13 01:03 am UTC (link)
One would think after the mad levels of anger and complaints you've had about our frustration with LJ's lack of communication, you would have at least been open about this. Not only does it put the final stake into LJ's former 'no ads' philosophy, it's doing it in a particularly unprofessional way.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]lavendertook
2008-03-13 01:06 am UTC (link)
Having once been a new LJ user, I found the basic option very easy to understand and though I am easily technologically confused, it needed no streamlining for me.

The fact that this change was implemented without being announced in today's news is indication that you knew users would be very disappointed by your decision to better accommodate advertisers at our expense.

This was a terrible decision and I hope you will seriously consider reinstating basic accounts. Otherwise, I will be part of the growing number of LJ users working toward wooing their LJ friends base away to other journalling options.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]xb95
2008-03-13 01:07 am UTC (link)
Pro tip: I don't think your userpic is a very good idea. At least don't be wearing a suit in it. ;-)

Anyway, back to your post: interesting. Of course, the fact that within a post trying to explain your position, you:

* quoted the FAQ stating what people have already been saying (that's insulting, we don't all read FAQs scouring for changes, we read [info]news)
* totally flummoxed the issue (do you really think any of the users care about new account flow?)
* totally lied (do you really want us to buy in to the idea that simplifying the account flow necessitated dropping Basic? why not drop Plus and remove ads entirely? sounds simpler!)
* tried to upsell us (hey, it's only $20/year, you get X and Y features too, and we're adding more)
* signed off with a typical business signoff, not as a person addressing someone they've upset (seriously here -- the last time your wife was upset at you, did you ever think of saying "I sincerely hope you will continue to give me a chance to respond to your concerns...")

Welcome to LiveJournal, Jason. You're in for a rough ride if this is the approach you're going to take with the community.

At any rate, I want to be clear: I'm fully in support of this site staying fiscally stable. If it's been determined that removing Basic accounts is the way to do that, then fine. Just have some balls about it, don't treat the users like retarded lemurs while hoping they aren't paying attention.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]amireal
2008-03-13 01:09 am UTC (link)
From a product perspective it was more about creating a new registration process that was easier for new users to understand. I'm sure it's been ages since many of you signed up for an account, but it was quite confusing and included a table of options that was not very inviting to new users.


Huh that's funny, I'm pretty sure your old users sign up for new accounts all the time-- they're called COMMUNITIES. I assume these too fall under this new rule?

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]griffen
2008-03-13 01:10 am UTC (link)
And the fact that this eliminates users who access the site for free was a totally unintentional side effect, I'm sure.

Look, man. I have a permanent account, and I would still never, ever consent to use this service with ads on my page. Ever. So you can bet you're going to see a mass exodus of people who might have upgraded to Plus if they also had the option to downgrade back to Basic if they decided they didn't like the ads and couldn't afford a permanent account.

It had nothing to do with "easier to understand" and everything to do with "let's put another switcheroo over on people, thereby giving LJ's reputation as a user-centered site yet another black eye in the blogosphere." Be honest and cut it out with the spin. We're not stupid, and SUP keeps treating us as if we are, same as Six Apart did during its tenure here.

You say you don't want to be crass? Be honest about why you did this, and be up-front about it, instead of hiding it in a FAQ and not announcing the change in [info]news.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]kahlan_amnell
2008-03-13 01:11 am UTC (link)
Doing this with no notice to users was very bad form.

Live Journal has been changing to a pay site gradually, with non-paid users forced to see ads. That was not how LJ used to be.

As a permanant account holder, I used to be a basic user. If my first LJ account had ads, I don't think I would have stayed around long enough to be interested in a paid account then a permanent account. Basic accounts are like a free trial. With ads, that free trial isn't nearly as good.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]capslockasaurus
2008-03-13 01:11 am UTC (link)
...Nah.

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You eliminated free accounts because you don't get any revenue out of them. Don't pretend otherwise
[info]coffeejunkii
2008-03-13 01:12 am UTC (link)
I don't believe one word you're saying. When you say you want to make things easier, it's just a nice front to saying "accounts without advertising don't make any money for us so we will no longer make them available." Don't tell me that that's not the reason. At least you could be honest about this! We know that LJ is a business where the only thing that counts is the bottom line.

Stop pretending you actually care. If you actually cared, you'd take the time to respond to these comments.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]isiscolo
2008-03-13 01:14 am UTC (link)
From a product perspective it was more about creating a new registration process that was easier for new users to understand...

...For new users to the site, the options of either having an ad-supported journal or the option to pay $20 annually for more (2GB) photo storage, more userpics, and ad-controls seems like a much simpler and easy to understand work-flow.


Wow. Do you really believe that people are unable to count to three? That "explanation" fails to have any credibility whatsoever.

Let me point out that as the holder of a permanent account, this doesn't affect me. Heck, I have four other accounts; one paid and three basic. So I can't imagine the need for me to create another account any time soon.

But I am far, far less likely to recommend LJ to my friends now. Now you have nothing to offer over any of the other journal-site clones based on your software. Especially with OpenID - who needs LJ, when one can get a permanent InsaneJournal account for much less?

I understand the need to create a revenue stream, either through paid accounts or advertising. But the old model: few privileges for free; more for allowing advertising; even more if you pay - it worked for years! And it got people like me to upgrade from free to paid accounts, and ultimately to permanent accounts. I'm sad that you feel it no longer works.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]bitter_crimson
2008-03-13 01:16 am UTC (link)
I'm offended by your broad and unfounded assumptions about the intelligence of the average LiveJournal user. (Unless you've done some kind of cutting-edge sociological study on the matter I've missed...?)

That said, if people really are so stupid they can't handle choosing between "free, no ads, no extra features" and "free, ads, extra features," there still shouldn't be anything stopping you from continuing to offer Basic Accounts for those tech-savvy users who struggle through LJ's confusing layout and figure out how to change their account type later. (At least, there's nothing you've mentioned. If the immense amounts of Basic Accounts were putting unbearable strain on the LJ servers, that'd be another story.)

However, I get the distinct impression this is really all, gosh, about the money. So, for future reference, if you're going to get rid of Basic Accounts because you want more revenue? I'd appreciate it if you'd at least be honest about it.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]ambelies
2008-03-13 01:17 am UTC (link)
WHY DID WE HAVE TO LEARN ABOUT THIS IN A COMMENT AND NOT AS AN ANNOUNCEMENT????

Bad form, man. Extremely bad form.

and way to consult with your farking psuedo advisory board.

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Re: Basic accounts
[info]dots
2008-03-13 01:18 am UTC (link)
We all know what this was actually about, and that's ad money.

There was a time when I didn't mind the ads on LJ; when I thought the people throwing fits over it were overreacting. After all, you wouldn't see them unless you signed up for a Plus account, right?

Then ads got put into basic view as well, and I blanched, and now basic accounts are gone altogether.

I have adblock, so I don't have to deal with this bullshit even when I am logged in to my non-paid journals, but come on. Tell us the truth; it's about money. We all know it.

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That sets the BS flag. - [info]vakkotaur, 2008-03-13 01:38 am UTC (Expand)
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... - [info]vakkotaur, 2008-03-13 02:00 am UTC (Expand)
...but any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice. - [info]ms_manna, 2008-03-13 01:41 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]turloughishere, 2008-03-13 01:32 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]magicalobizuth, 2008-03-13 01:45 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]rwday, 2008-03-13 01:46 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]smeddley, 2008-03-13 01:47 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]jc, 2008-03-13 01:48 am UTC (Expand)
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Re: Basic accounts - [info]noelleleithe, 2008-03-13 01:53 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]ovendoor, 2008-03-13 01:54 am UTC (Expand)
teetering on the edge, here - [info]spark_force, 2008-03-13 01:57 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]ron_newman, 2008-03-13 01:58 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]laerwen, 2008-03-13 01:58 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]leora, 2008-03-13 02:01 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]thevelvetsun, 2008-03-13 02:02 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]noelleleithe, 2008-03-13 02:03 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]artes, 2008-03-13 02:07 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]white_aster, 2008-03-13 02:09 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]yukie1013, 2008-03-13 11:57 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]fickle_goddess, 2008-03-13 02:10 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]sabrinanymph, 2008-03-13 02:11 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]circuit_four, 2008-03-13 02:11 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]zillah975, 2008-03-13 02:17 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]allsunday, 2008-03-13 02:23 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]rejeneration, 2008-03-13 02:23 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]laerwen, 2008-03-13 02:44 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]elistaire, 2008-03-13 02:25 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]wolfsilveroak, 2008-03-13 02:25 am UTC (Expand)
nice try - [info]acari, 2008-03-13 02:26 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]sptmbrwind, 2008-03-13 02:28 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]johncoxon, 2008-03-13 02:29 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]redatt, 2008-03-13 02:33 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]sophy, 2008-03-13 02:35 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]fencer_x, 2008-03-13 02:37 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]featherofeeling, 2008-03-13 02:39 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]wintersjuly, 2008-03-13 02:41 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]springheel_jack, 2008-03-13 02:41 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]lydiabell, 2008-03-13 02:43 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]aphrodeia, 2008-03-13 02:43 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]leeson, 2008-03-13 02:44 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]hezul, 2008-03-13 02:45 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]dammitliv, 2008-03-13 02:46 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts on LJ compared to other sites? - [info]cortanah, 2008-03-13 02:47 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]vakkotaur, 2008-03-13 03:36 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]drkcherry, 2008-03-13 03:00 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]spuzz, 2008-03-13 03:11 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]planetgal471, 2008-03-13 03:19 am UTC (Expand)
In Summary - [info]phoenix_melody, 2008-03-13 03:20 am UTC (Expand)
NICE SMOKESCREEN! - [info]imaginarycircus, 2008-03-13 03:22 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]jonnorthwood, 2008-03-13 03:23 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]coendou, 2008-03-13 03:28 am UTC (Expand)
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Re: Basic accounts - [info]havenstar, 2008-03-13 03:32 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]valen, 2008-03-13 03:33 am UTC (Expand)
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Re: Basic accounts - [info]jocondite, 2008-03-13 03:36 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]mercat, 2008-03-13 03:42 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]vesleskjor, 2008-03-13 03:44 am UTC (Expand)
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Re: Basic accounts - [info]b_c_draygon, 2008-03-13 03:46 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]taimatsu, 2008-03-13 03:47 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]imc, 2008-03-14 12:45 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]veracity, 2008-03-13 03:47 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]mawaridi, 2008-03-13 03:50 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]aroihkin, 2008-03-13 03:50 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]stillvisions, 2008-03-13 03:51 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]mercat, 2008-03-13 04:08 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]vayshedruvon, 2008-03-13 03:51 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]solarbird, 2008-03-13 03:54 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]rosefox, 2008-03-13 03:56 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]tide_and_time, 2008-03-13 03:59 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]thebipolarcat, 2008-03-13 04:01 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]foxfirefey, 2008-03-13 08:10 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]setos_puppy, 2008-03-13 04:03 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]zarhooie, 2008-03-13 04:03 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]riari, 2008-03-13 04:04 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]cruel_illusion, 2008-03-13 04:06 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]panda_cookie, 2008-03-13 04:12 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]allagainst, 2008-03-13 04:16 am UTC (Expand)
the world's run by little ones and zeroes - it's all just electrons. - [info]minkhollow, 2008-03-13 04:17 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]meowmeowbutt, 2008-03-13 04:28 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]il_pleut, 2008-03-13 04:28 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]24_centuries, 2008-03-13 04:32 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]vichan, 2008-03-13 04:37 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]turloughishere, 2008-03-13 01:36 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]georgedollie, 2008-03-13 04:38 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]iwassooworried, 2008-03-13 04:47 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]nightangelca, 2008-03-13 04:47 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]caras_galadhon, 2008-03-13 04:52 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]rhonan, 2008-03-13 05:00 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]sunhawk, 2008-03-13 05:05 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]evila_elf, 2008-03-13 05:09 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]periaeria, 2008-03-13 05:09 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]raisedbymoogles, 2008-03-13 05:19 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]baka_tenshi, 2008-03-13 05:28 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]airemay, 2008-03-13 05:35 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]akatonbo, 2008-03-13 05:36 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]elgraves, 2008-03-13 05:40 am UTC (Expand)
cynical bitch get! - [info]tashiro_kun, 2008-03-13 05:40 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]restless_jedi, 2008-03-13 05:45 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]blackjackrocket, 2008-03-13 05:46 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]fragments_, 2008-03-13 05:46 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]nyannichuan, 2008-03-13 06:08 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]delusionalangel, 2008-03-13 06:30 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]emmuzka, 2008-03-13 06:35 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]meowmeowbutt, 2008-03-13 06:37 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]0px, 2008-03-13 05:51 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]colorofsakura, 2008-03-13 06:58 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]ninepointfivemm, 2008-03-13 06:58 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]schnaucl, 2008-03-13 07:05 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]kurokaze_89, 2008-03-13 07:06 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]orie, 2008-03-13 07:06 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]jodawi, 2008-03-13 07:09 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]momentsmusicaux, 2008-03-13 07:12 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]ximeria, 2008-03-13 07:21 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]mefuselah, 2008-03-13 07:26 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]g_shadowslayer, 2008-03-13 07:27 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]starry_diadem, 2008-03-13 07:34 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - thanks for your time. :) - [info]lady_erin, 2008-03-13 08:15 am UTC (Expand)
Thank you sir - [info]alf_kadett, 2008-03-13 08:30 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]deemon, 2008-03-13 08:40 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]sylviamaris, 2008-03-13 08:45 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]xphoenixrising, 2008-03-13 08:45 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]tulimeeria, 2008-03-13 08:56 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]xphoenixrising, 2008-03-13 11:45 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]toppedbyzaworld, 2008-03-13 09:11 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]stormcloude, 2008-03-13 09:15 am UTC (Expand)
You do understand that's the opposite of helpful, right? - [info]of_carabas, 2008-03-13 09:25 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]mr_ragamuffin, 2008-03-13 09:54 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]nolseygnu, 2008-03-13 10:03 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]missne, 2008-03-13 10:30 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]roseandsigil, 2008-03-13 10:43 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]dustthouart, 2008-03-13 10:43 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]insomnia, 2008-03-13 10:49 am UTC (Expand)
I feel like I'm at a hockey game with so many people calling bullshit - [info]marishna, 2008-03-13 11:04 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]jrho, 2008-03-13 11:35 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]xphoenixrising, 2008-03-13 11:55 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]tulimeeria, 2008-03-13 12:03 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]cesy, 2008-03-13 11:49 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]laefar, 2008-03-13 12:03 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]raynedanser, 2008-03-13 12:03 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]deathboy, 2008-03-13 12:11 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]renatus, 2008-03-13 12:13 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]strangemuses, 2008-03-13 12:22 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]sparkindarkness, 2008-03-13 12:27 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]zarhooie, 2008-03-13 12:31 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]severedscythe, 2008-03-13 12:38 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]cherrydilemma, 2008-03-13 12:41 pm UTC (Expand)
So, this is the situation? - [info]bluepard, 2008-03-13 12:52 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]rileysaplank, 2008-03-13 12:53 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]nebroadwe, 2008-03-13 12:56 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]moiread, 2008-03-13 01:00 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]j_adoube, 2008-03-13 01:08 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]sparkindarkness, 2008-03-13 01:16 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]ozqueen, 2008-03-13 01:19 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]infinitepryde, 2008-03-13 01:31 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]heavenscalyx, 2008-03-13 01:42 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]scrollgirl, 2008-03-13 01:43 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]sciencegeek, 2008-03-13 01:43 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]karamarie_mckay, 2008-03-13 02:06 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]corrodedcage, 2008-03-13 02:15 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]men_in_full, 2008-03-13 02:45 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]midnightcalling, 2008-03-13 02:50 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]nyq, 2008-03-13 02:56 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]bibliofile, 2008-03-13 02:58 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]laurion, 2008-03-13 03:00 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]winter_in_asia, 2008-03-13 03:04 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]eri_chan, 2008-03-13 03:07 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]streon, 2008-03-13 03:19 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]onewayfreak, 2008-03-13 03:22 pm UTC (Expand)
The words sell and out and fucking stupid enter my mind right now - [info]be_found, 2008-03-13 03:27 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]tilney, 2008-03-13 03:34 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]shermarama, 2008-03-13 03:38 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]shermarama, 2008-03-13 03:54 pm UTC (Expand)
Suggest limited-time basic accounts - [info]starwatcher307, 2008-03-13 03:55 pm UTC (Expand)
Ads on your permanent account? - [info]eponis, 2008-03-13 04:05 pm UTC (Expand)
... - [info]foxfirefey, 2008-03-13 04:14 pm UTC (Expand)
... - [info]eponis, 2008-03-13 04:17 pm UTC (Expand)
... - [info]foxfirefey, 2008-03-13 04:19 pm UTC (Expand)
... - [info]eponis, 2008-03-13 04:22 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]benchilada, 2008-03-13 05:18 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]thineownself, 2008-03-13 05:40 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]bewize, 2008-03-13 05:59 pm UTC (Expand)
You can't be serious. - [info]foresthouse, 2008-03-13 06:02 pm UTC (Expand)
You really think were stupid... - [info]hdofu, 2008-03-13 06:10 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]cereta, 2008-03-13 06:13 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]lupabitch, 2008-03-13 06:17 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]ronsrants, 2008-03-13 06:49 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]okie_dokie_doh, 2008-03-13 06:53 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]aubreywitch, 2008-03-13 06:54 pm UTC (Expand)
oh, for goodness' sake - [info]ifreet, 2008-03-13 07:03 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]ov_20, 2008-03-13 07:06 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]icedmaple, 2008-03-13 07:08 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]sivullinen, 2008-03-13 07:15 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]outlaw, 2008-03-13 07:20 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]gillo, 2008-03-13 07:46 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]phoenix_singing, 2008-03-13 08:27 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]elmyraemilie, 2008-03-13 09:12 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]dawn_felagund, 2008-03-13 09:18 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]genarti, 2008-03-13 09:34 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]1foxyfemale, 2008-03-13 10:15 pm UTC (Expand)
... - [info]1foxyfemale, 2008-03-14 03:28 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]offtheplane, 2008-03-13 10:20 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]alysonl, 2008-03-13 10:21 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Basic accounts - [info]thalialunacy, 2008-03-13 10:21 pm UTC (Expand)
... - [info]alt_baie, 2008-03-14 06:23 am UTC (Expand)
... - [info]opaleyes, 2008-03-14 05:19 pm UTC (Expand)
... - [info]alt_baie, 2008-03-14 11:13 pm UTC (Expand)
... - [info]thalialunacy, 2008-03-19 07:13 pm UTC (Expand)
... - [info]thalialunacy, 2008-03-19 07:05 pm UTC (Expand)

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