theljstaff (theljstaff) wrote in news,
2012-10-30 11:46:00

New beta version of Friends page, plus other features and fixes

With the release of version 98 yesterday, the Friends page has been redesigned as a system page for all users and is now available for beta testing by everyone. As you may have already seen, there will be a link at the top of your Friends page allowing you to switch between the new and old versions throughout the beta testing period.

For full information on this redesigned page, plus other new features and bug fixes, please see this post in the lj_releases community. Thank you!
Tags: friends page redesign, r98
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foxfirefey

October 30 2012, 16:48:05 UTC 6 months ago

I totally have a poll on this, for my own curious factgathering. (Not inflammatory, just checking the spread.)

crashandburn

October 30 2012, 17:01:13 UTC 6 months ago

I don't know you but I liked your idea for the poll so I totally filled it out. :)

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bookishgeek

October 30 2012, 16:48:19 UTC 6 months ago

TL;DR of the entirety of the comments that will come to this post:

Nobody wants this. Please get rid of it or make it optional for everyone. LJ is not Tumblr and does not want this. People code layouts in specific ways so they can read their friends page and this systematically destroys that. People tend to complain about a lot of crap on these posts, but this one is really serious: you've screwed up immensely and lost a lot of respect this go 'round, and it's enough to legitimately make people rage quit.

pseudomonas

October 30 2012, 16:52:03 UTC 6 months ago

+1 for "make it optional". People who want it can use it; people who don't can use the old style, everyone's happy.

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misstiajournal

October 30 2012, 16:48:24 UTC 6 months ago

DO NOT WANT!!!!! of course LJ doesn't care one iota what thousands of people say....once this is forced upon me, i will no longer use my friends page at all as the layout is blinding, not user friender and just NO, NO!.....it's almost like you WANT people to leave LJ....

saanrio

October 30 2012, 17:56:11 UTC 6 months ago

it's almost like you WANT people to leave LJ....

I am seriously beginning to think this is the thought behind all of this... how much will they take before they all just leave?

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fdsf

October 30 2012, 16:48:29 UTC 6 months ago

Hello!

If the new friends page is a system page, does that mean that it's no longer theme-able?

matgb

October 30 2012, 17:04:40 UTC 6 months ago

Yes.

It does.

and if it happens, unless they introduce a proper dark background system theme I will be forced to finally abandon my account completely and never consider paying them any money again.

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elusis

October 30 2012, 16:49:48 UTC 6 months ago

This is a terrible decision.

I customize the look of my journal so I can read my friends page looking the way I want it to look. It is the main LJ page I look at.

Infinite loading on Facebook overwhelms my browser (most current version of Firefox, so not outdated) on a regular basis. I hate it. It is a terrible design idea for any site where users might want to comprehensively read all new content.

In short, your ideas are bad and you should feel bad. Do not do this. 10 year paid user here, who will cancel if you go forward.

lightning_hound

October 31 2012, 04:33:33 UTC 6 months ago

This, goddammit.

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beafarhana

October 30 2012, 16:50:39 UTC 6 months ago

Oh for crying out loud- EVERYBODY HATES IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you not read any of the release comments?

Make it optional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lughnie

October 30 2012, 17:14:37 UTC 6 months ago

This! :)

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theafaye

October 30 2012, 16:50:42 UTC 6 months ago

I hate the new friends page. Hate, hate, hate. Do not want. LJ is getting quieter by the day as it is. This'll just make it worse.

fred2265

October 31 2012, 08:09:02 UTC 6 months ago

Not sure about this change yet. Will have to wait and see..

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jessieka

October 30 2012, 16:51:02 UTC 6 months ago

Why are you making us go to another page just to find out the changes? Ridiculous.

rebelsheart

October 30 2012, 17:58:43 UTC 6 months ago

lj_releases is where changes, including bugfixes, are announced. Has been since it was introduced. The post was mentioned here because it is a open beta test and they want more people to give feedback.

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north13

October 30 2012, 16:51:04 UTC 6 months ago

I want to use the OLD friends page.

twissie

October 30 2012, 16:51:09 UTC 6 months ago

Could you please provide a screenshot of what the new friends page is really supposed to look like? I get two different versions (one with white main background (OUCH!), and one with a grey main background).

What screen resolution is this designed for? There seems to be no scalability, and the readability is very poor too. Kind of unfortunate on a site where the users do nothing but read.

radley

October 30 2012, 16:51:31 UTC 6 months ago

i do not have a link at the top of my friends page to switch to anything.

malnpudl

October 30 2012, 17:28:47 UTC 6 months ago

You have to have the Navigation Bar turned on in order to see it.

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hooloovoo_42

October 30 2012, 16:52:29 UTC 6 months ago

I saw the thing about the new page and switched. It's horrible. I switched back. Why do we customise our pages to the colours and fonts we want if you're going to change them?

LJ used to be fun. Then you broke it and people left. Now it's just bad.

emmavescence

October 30 2012, 18:25:33 UTC 6 months ago

This is pretty much what I was going to say. Horrible idea, do not want, etc. The friends page is the main thing I use LJ for these days, clearly it's time for another recruitment drive to Dreamwidth to see if I can get a critical mass of people over there so I don't have to bother here anymore, as it's clear the management and developers aren't listening to what the users want (if the Russian users want this then more power to them, but keep the western LJ as it was or you're going to lose the majority of the users who stuck around here).

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ditzy1978

October 30 2012, 16:53:31 UTC 6 months ago

What does this add? Other than making the friend page ugly!

sweetnessarose

October 30 2012, 16:54:03 UTC 6 months ago

I don't mind the concept of one long page, but its ugly D:

goddessofchaos

October 30 2012, 16:54:08 UTC 6 months ago

Customisation is one of the main reasons I love LJ. I want to read my Friends page in my own format, not in some standardised feed, like Facebook. Absolutely no-one wants this change and my Flist is full of people outraged about it. So why on earth are you doing it?

elkster

October 30 2012, 18:18:22 UTC 6 months ago

This.

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werewolf_hacker

October 30 2012, 16:54:21 UTC 6 months ago Edited:  October 30 2012, 17:08:43 UTC

Infinite scroll needs to die in a fire. I hated it when Cheezburger implemented it and I will hate it here. Getting back to the top of the page is a royal pain in the ass if you're scrolling for several pages, and half the time at the Cheezburger site it won't take me all the way up. I hope your coders are more competent than theirs, but this is LJ and I have no faith that they are. The UP button that takes you all the way back to the top is good, but I've got no confidence that it'll work 100% of the time because, well. This is LJ.

Were people beating on your doors demanding this or did your coders just wake up one day and say "Oh, hey, we need to justify our paychecks again, let's put in this new thing that will drive the users crazy and send people to DW in droves again!"

Also, the new friends page is ugly as hell. I hate the static buttons on the side of the page (whatever the hell they do). Whoever designed those damn things needs to be fired from the internet. At least make them smaller, because for those of us with small screens they take up way too much damn room and block content.

Also, I have to scroll sideways to read entries, so if you've got a fixed-width thing going here, STOP THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW. I don't want to maximize my browser.

Apparently "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is anathema around here. If it ain't broke, LJ will fix it 'til it is.

EDIT: Also, no word on when you're going to fix the bug that makes it so that long comment threads break the page. Instead of implementing new crap that no one wants, how about you get the coders to work on something that is actually friggin' broken and has been for friggin' ages???

green_knight

October 30 2012, 21:55:22 UTC 6 months ago

I don't want to maximize my browser.

I do a fair amount of reading on my iPhone. I scroll sideways often enough as it is. A wider layout means I'll have to wait until I am back home.

What it will mean in reality is that I'll switch my reading to DW because I'm fed up with 'updates' that break functionality. What's the point in a 'betatest' that ignores everybody who says 'too much white, giving me headaches, too resourcehungry, not functional' and rolls out the update anyway?

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eidna

October 30 2012, 16:54:38 UTC 6 months ago

Please make this new version optional, rather than mandatory. I like LJ because of the way my friends page is structured now, and the control I have as far as display and layout.

shadoweon

October 30 2012, 23:05:47 UTC 6 months ago

This.

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jussy_baby

October 30 2012, 16:54:50 UTC 6 months ago

I don't wanna see the stupid and boring background all the time I'm on my friends page. And I don't wanna see the LJ navigation all the time. It doesn't look good and I wanna see my own style on the friends page, too. Why did I decide to use an extra style for my journal? Because a white page is boring and I need colour. At my journal and my friends page. Next step will be to delete all style/layouts and all will be white, huh? I don't like it.

strassenhund

October 30 2012, 17:43:05 UTC 6 months ago

Don't forget the light blue. So, everything will be white and light blue. I hope LJ decides to send free sunglasses to me and each user then.

misswitch

October 30 2012, 16:54:54 UTC 6 months ago

I have heard NOTHING good about this friend page redesign, but I cannot see for myself because there is no link to switch back and forth.

malnpudl

October 30 2012, 17:29:03 UTC 6 months ago

You have to have the Navigation Bar turned on in order to see it.

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outoftime

October 30 2012, 16:54:55 UTC 6 months ago

I am using the little cell phone battery I have left (since I am currently without power from the hurricane) to plead with you not to make these changes permanent. I don't mind it if you keep it as something you can opt in or opt out of, but please don't force it on us. I think you will see a mass exodus if you make these changes. Please please please listen to your customers on this.

brickhousewench

October 30 2012, 16:54:58 UTC 6 months ago

PLEASE consider coding in the option to keep the old friends page. Many of us do not like the new format and would prefer to stay with the old style.

doylebaby

October 30 2012, 16:55:07 UTC 6 months ago

It just amazes me how you keep ignoring the hundreds of comments AGAINST this new version of the friends page.

You could have - you know as a polite way towards your user base, paying or otherwise - at least ACKNOWLEDGE their opposition against this.

Maybe REASSURE them that there will be an opt-out option, instead of going forth like a blind cow!!!!!!! (apologies to the cow)

leigh57

October 30 2012, 17:08:51 UTC 6 months ago

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leigh57

October 30 2012, 16:55:17 UTC 6 months ago Edited:  October 30 2012, 16:55:48 UTC

Nobody wants anything that takes away their customized journal style. This is one of the only places I can hide from the entire effing world being like tumblr. If this change is forced upon me, it's probable that I'll migrate everything to Dreamwidth, where I've already been shadow posting everything anyway.

Listen to your users, dammit.

ladyvox

October 30 2012, 17:00:16 UTC 6 months ago

+1 (or +1.000.000.000.000.000 really!)

I've been here for over 11 years and stuck to LJ throughout a bunch of crap and changes but this may well be the proverbial last straw.

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lcohen

October 30 2012, 16:55:35 UTC 6 months ago

this is completely NOT the way i want to read LJ. what in the world are you thinking of. please make this optional so that LJ is not rendered completely useless to me and apparently many others.

ideserveyou

October 30 2012, 16:55:39 UTC 6 months ago

I have beta-tested this. I beta-tested it for all of thirty seconds. That was quite long enough to convince me that I hated it. Please make this optional, not compulsory. It's too white and hard on the eyes, it takes too long to load, you can't turn off infinite scrolling, it's not customisable, it sucks. I do not want this. I did not pay you money to make my account harder for me to use. (Why don't you fix some stuff that is actually broken, like the fact that the 'updates' on the homepage don't actually update?) Please listen to your users and customers - you are making a mistake with this so-called improvement!

oudeteron

October 31 2012, 22:15:53 UTC 6 months ago

Co-freaking-signed. They won't listen, but co-signed all the same.
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