news: Limits, continued.

Brad Fitzpatrick (

bradfitz) wrote in

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@ 2003-02-06 09:45:00

Limits, continued.
So, there seems to be a lot of debate over the limits, especially the ones for paid users. I mean, 2000 comments! Never a good sign.

Scattered amongst the tons of non-constructive angry comments there were actually a few good arguments, and we do listen to well-written, calm arguments.

We don't want to hinder paid users, or piss off free users, so usage pattern stats be damned.... we'll increase the limits.

I'm not quite sure what it'll be yet, but it'll be more like 5 posts/day for free users, and 50 posts/day for early/paid/perm. 50 is pretty much "no limit", which so many paid users were wanting. We might even make it 70/day, and just manually check out anybody going over 50/day (or so much disk usage/day) for abusive behavior.

A lot of people asked, "Why should a paid user be limited? We're paying for it, why would we abuse it?" We don't want to hinder real users. The limit should be something you won't reach, so hopefully 50 you'll find better. The problem is, there are plenty of people who would pay a one-time $5 fee to have unfettered go-wild kill-the-server access. Just look how angry some people were in those 2,000 comments!

Also, we'll deal with the community posting issues before putting it live. Posts to certain communities won't count towards your quota at all, and posts to paid communities will have so many free posts/member/day.

I was totally serious when I said we aren't trying to be evil, though I saw so many people making fun of that statement. I'm just as much as an LJ addict as most of you, and I just want the site to be reliable.

Oh, let's do a poll....Poll #99497 Limits
Open to: All, results viewable to: All

Is 5 posts/day for free users more reasonable?

View Answers

Yes
7417 (82.9%)

No
1529 (17.1%)

Is 50 posts/day for non-free users reasonable?

View Answers

Yes
8044 (89.9%)

No
903 (10.1%)

Do you still hate us?

View Answers

Yes
773 (8.7%)

No
8140 (91.3%)

Do you understand the need for limits, in some form?

View Answers

Yes
8543 (95.2%)

No
427 (4.8%)

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	wyliekat 2003-02-06 09:49 am UTC (link)
	To tell you the truth, fifty seems excessive to me. The only thing I found problematic about the limits was the fact that it restricts communities - with so many people posting to any one community, it might actually become a problem. (Even thirty times seems excessive - even for a paid users on their individual accounts) (Reply to this)(Thread)(Expand)

(no subject) - ex_bad_evil_569, 2003-02-06 09:58 am UTC (Expand)

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wyliekat, 2003-02-06 10:08 am UTC (Expand)

(no subject) - spawnloser, 2003-02-06 10:35 am UTC (Expand)

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wyliekat, 2003-02-06 11:11 am UTC (Expand)

... - spawnloser, 2003-02-06 11:28 am UTC (Expand)

	tango 2003-02-06 09:49 am UTC (link)
	There is an assumption we all hated you, which I did not. I consider 20 posts/day for a paid user to be having no limit... I don't think I've ever made more than 5, though it's kind of hard to tell how many posts I've made across different journals in a given day. (Reply to this)(Thread)(Expand)

	shrijani 2003-02-06 09:49 am UTC (link)
	I didn't have a problem with the first limits you suggested, either, and didn't hate you before. Good luck with this. (Reply to this)(Thread)(Expand)

	ex_takenbutt517 2003-02-06 09:50 am UTC (link)
	Please don't limit paid users, but 25 or even 50 is fine, so everyone can post in communities. And please DONT LIMIT COMMENETS! (Reply to this)(Thread)(Expand)

	waning_estrogen 2003-02-06 09:51 am UTC (link)
	if you're a free user, you're getting a free service. any limiting is reasonable. the end. (Reply to this)(Thread)(Expand)

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