news: Weblogs.com

Brad Fitzpatrick (

bradfitz) wrote in

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@ 2003-04-17 13:37:00

Weblogs.com
We've added optional support to ping Weblogs.com when your journal updates. (public entries only)

This is a paid-user feature. To enable it, go to:

http://www.livejournal.com/editinfo.bml

Be aware that Weblogs.com doesn't update instantly.

(The Weblogs.com equivalent for all LiveJournal users is the latest entries page)

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	thies 2003-04-17 01:38 pm UTC (link)
	that was quick. but colour me retarded, I don't see the option on the editinfo page. (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	simplycosmic 2003-04-17 01:42 pm UTC (link)
	Add me to the group. Time to get better glasses I guess. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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	alien88 2003-04-17 01:38 pm UTC (link)
	Are we ever going to get birthday notifications back? (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	sarah_mascara 2003-04-17 01:40 pm UTC (link)
	While I can't answer your question, I don't know if you've been pointed towards http://www.livejournal.com/birthdays.bml or http://www.livejournal.com/portal/. If you haven't, check 'em out. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	damnitnicole 2003-04-17 01:40 pm UTC (link)
	Cool! That was fast, I just saw it in suggestions today! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	rahaeli 2003-04-17 01:42 pm UTC (link)
	It's been under development for a while :) (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	thevoicewithin 2003-04-17 01:42 pm UTC (link)
	Hmmm - am I little silly, or is this not actually on the page yet? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	crschmidt 2003-04-17 01:46 pm UTC (link)
	It takes time to go across all the webservers. I can't see it, but apparently some can shrug. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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crschmidt
2003-04-17 01:44 pm UTC (link)

Your latest base-data patch/update doesn't seem to be for weblogs pinging (even though it says it should be).

http://cvs.livejournal.org/browse.cgi/livejournal/bin/upgrading/base-data.sql.diff?r1=1.55&r2=1.56

Also, editinfo seems to be propogataing slowly. I don't know if you can change that, but until it's done, you'll probably get at least a few "i can't see it!" comments.

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	whitaker 2003-04-17 02:18 pm UTC (link)
	http://cvs.livejournal.org/browse.cgi/livejournal/bin/upgrading/base-data.sql.diff?r1=1.56&r2=1.57 (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	queerasjohn 2003-04-17 01:49 pm UTC (link)
	Not to be a pain in the ass, but you might want a brief explanation of what this is for people who don't know. I can think of at least four people who are going to be "Whatchu talking about, Willis?". (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	loveanddarkness 2003-04-17 01:52 pm UTC (link)
	::::raises hand:::: although I was going to say something like "What the hell is this for?" not "Whatchu talking 'bout, Willis?" (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	bug? evan 2003-04-17 01:51 pm UTC (link)
	All the links appearing on weblogs.com look like they're links to friends pages. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: bug? whitaker 2003-04-17 02:47 pm UTC (link)
	Looked into that. I think that person manually entered their url? I think the problem lies elsewhere. Time to sleuth it out. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	christowang 2003-04-17 01:52 pm UTC (link)
	I didn't notice when the title option went in either, but I don't think it works properly, at least on my friends page. Maybe its not in S2 or not in Generator yet. (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	jackola 2003-04-17 02:20 pm UTC (link)
	Correct. The new title function only works on S1 styles at the moment. Also, it only works on the system styles. Custom styles have to be edited to show the new change. However, your title is showing on your LASTN page and on your friends page. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	halkeye 2003-04-17 01:53 pm UTC (link)
	why is it linking to people's /friends pages? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	andrewducker 2003-04-17 02:16 pm UTC (link)
	Seconded. What's going on there??? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	coollibrarian 2003-04-17 01:55 pm UTC (link)
	excellent!, I especially like the latest entries page! (Reply to this)

	wyldkyss 2003-04-17 01:55 pm UTC (link)
	I was about to join the "Where is it?" group, for force refresh popped it right in place. Sweet! (Reply to this)

	natewillsheets 2003-04-17 02:10 pm UTC (link)
	WHAT ABOUT MORE ICONS FOR PAID USERS????!!!!???!!!????!!??? Heehee, just kidding! ;) (Reply to this)

	Uber Shibby! fallen_x_ashes 2003-04-17 02:21 pm UTC (link)
	Tres cool. (Reply to this)

	Fantastic! andrewducker 2003-04-17 02:23 pm UTC (link)
	Now, if we could just get Trackbak working as well, we'd have everything! (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	jackola 2003-04-17 02:32 pm UTC (link)
	For some reason I'm thinking that I saw somewhere a while ago that they had no intention of having Trackbak again. I could be wrong though. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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crschmidt, 2003-04-29 09:59 am UTC (Expand)

	saveyoursanity 2003-04-17 02:37 pm UTC (link)
	So, um, what does this do, besides tell a random other website that our site's been updated? Is there any benefit to telling this website my lj has updated? Is there any reason I would want to do this? Does this have something to do with blogrolling? I would assume so, but the documentation on all these websites is CRAPPY. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Purposes of weblogs.com owlfish 2003-04-17 03:14 pm UTC (link)
	It could have something to do with Blogrolls, but those are optional. Services which rely on weblogs.com include Technorati (fun for seeing who is linking to whom, including those not on LJ) and BlogShares.com. Unless you're interested in seeing how your weblog fits into non-LJ networks or are a publicity hog, enablying the feature is pretty optional. (Reply to this) (Parent)

leprosy
2003-04-17 03:08 pm UTC (link)

Is the LJ latest updated page only supposed to reference public entries?

One of the entries I clicked led to the warning you get when trying to access protected entries.

I suppose the person whose entry it was could have changed the protection manually, however I would be upset if any portion of a protected entry of mine got published on the update page. This especially concerns me in that if there is no subject line, the first line of the entry is used.

Can we opt out of this feature? I'd frankly like to turn off my RSS syndication as well, since I don't want robots crawling through my entries.

And yes, I am overly paranoid.

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jackola
2003-04-17 03:57 pm UTC (link)

This feature only works on public entries, yes. If a user makes an entry public, then changes it after posting it, then the link will still be visible on weblogs.com.

You are already opt out of this feature. In order to opt-in, you have to check the option on the edit info page.

Also, RSS only reads your public entries as well. I do not think there is a way to turn indexing off for the RSS feed. However, if you never link to the RSS feed then the robots should never see it, I don't think.

*jack

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Uh, For the Less Geeky -

pandemo, 2003-04-17 04:23 pm UTC (Expand)

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jackola, 2003-04-17 04:33 pm UTC (Expand)

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	mistwolf 2003-04-17 03:08 pm UTC (link)
	Erm, ok, I have to ask. Where on the edit info page? I don't see it. scuff I may just be blind... :) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	bad_hair_day 2003-04-17 11:57 pm UTC (link)
	http://www.livejournal.com/editinfo.bml should be there. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	leggyslove 2003-04-17 05:22 pm UTC (link)
	I know this doesn't have anything to do with this post, but I just switched over to the Xcolibur style of LJ, and where can I edit my journal style? I can't find it, or I'm too blind to notice. lol :P (Reply to this) (Thread)

	flashfire 2003-04-17 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	Manage --> Customize, I think. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	doesn't work? skoop 2003-04-18 01:26 am UTC (link)
	I just posted a new entry in my blog and have been reloading weblogs.com for 10 minutes but my weblog is not being listed there. maybe the feedback that you get from pinging weblogs.com can be shown on the post confirmation page? (Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: doesn't work?

amaiman
2003-04-21 10:29 pm UTC (link)

I've noticed this as well...Does this feature work at all? I use the Semagic client, maybe it doesn't ping weblogs.com if you post using a client?

I did enable the option in my settings page, and I posted a public entry, but nothing showed up on Weblogs.com. I know that the manual update page for weblogs.com limits you to one update per 5 minutes, is it possible that only one update from LiveJournal is getting through to weblogs.com?

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	insano 2003-04-18 09:22 am UTC (link)
	=p (Reply to this)

	chrishaas 2003-04-18 01:45 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you for the new feature. (Reply to this)

	lulu_plum 2003-04-18 03:14 pm UTC (link)
	What would be really groovy...is if, whenever you added someone to your friends list, they automatically got a message telling them that you did. And even better: if you could set what that message would say yourself. Just a creative little idea from Lulu. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amnesic_kid 2004-02-27 10:23 pm UTC (link)
	there was an outside-LJ feature somewhere, but they took it down. it messaged you once a day with an update of modifications in your friends list (adds, removes). i guess someone will do it again. someday :D (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	xdreamweaverx 2003-04-20 10:39 am UTC (link)
	my friends page isnt updating at all. can you help? (Reply to this)

	What specific data is sent? amaiman 2003-04-21 01:44 pm UTC (link)
	What data exactly does it send to weblogs.com? I would assume that it should be our journal title (not the entry subject) and the URL to the journal...Those are the fields on weblog.com's manual update form. Which URL does it send? The /users/whoever one, or (preferred) the whoever.livejournal.com one? (Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: What specific data is sent?

amaiman
2003-04-21 10:38 pm UTC (link)

Ok, answering my own questions. After reading through the source code, it appears that it's supposed to send your journal title (from your user prefences), and the /users/whatever URL.

However, it appears that this entire feature is broken, as LiveJournal isn't actually sending ANY pings to weblogs.com (my post never showed up there, and only one LiveJournal is showing as being updated in the last 4 hours according to weblogs.com, that one was probably manually entered).

Any ideas on when this feature will actually work?

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	agentlizzle 2003-04-21 07:08 pm UTC (link)
	This is off topic, and this isn't a complaint, but I have been wondering why the Chef Cluster is the one that's always being worked on, in read-only mode, or just down completely? What makes it so prone to being down or in need of maintenance? (Reply to this)

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