Brad Fitzpatrick ([info]bradfitz) wrote in [info]news,
@ 2003-12-10 18:30:00
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Update
Fun stuff in LiveJournal land lately. I'm rushed, as always, so I'll just zip through this:

New code
Just put a bunch of new code live that the LJ crew's been working on. Of note:
  • Rich Text Editor -- the beginnings of the rich text (WYSIWYG) editor is now available. If your browser supports it, the update.bml page now lets you switch to "rich text" mode. Should work in newer IEs and Mozillas. Mac support is limited to Mozilla, due to Safari/IE not implementing support for it. There are still a few bugs (JavaScript is the most painful programming environment), but we'll be working on it. It's sufficiently usable as is, though.
  • Post from userinfo.bml -- From a community's userinfo page, you can click the pencil icon in the toolbar to post to that community, which saves some steps. Also, this finally adds support for that option in the community settings page where you can allow non-members to post.
  • New mood theme browser -- the mood theme browser is now prettier and easier to use.
  • Lots of memcache/database work -- nothing particularly interesting. But if you're a geek, you might enjoy this post in [info]lj_backend about our upcoming database config changes.

New style(s)
Jesse and Kevin have been working on new styles. The first, available to all users, is named "Digital Multiplex", and is a port of the OSWD (Open Soure Web Design) style of the same name. You can see it in action here: [info]jproulx. It's S2-only, so select it from /customize/ after choosing S2 as your style system. A new one will be coming shortly. Contact [info]jproulx about any bugs you find in the new style.

Upcoming commercials
A couple months ago we were approached by a production company that was looking to expand their portfolio into tech/web companies and wanted to make some LiveJournal commercials, since they were LiveJournal users themselves. My initial reaction was, "Naah.... too expensive probably, and we don't advertise." But they just wanted to make them for fun and were offering to make them at cost. So, we all talked about it and decided it'd be neat. They turned out really well. (we'll be posting MPG and WMV files soon) Anyway, we needed a place to show them and got a good deal with Regal Cinemas to play them from Dec 12th - Dec 25th, which is during the Lord of the Rings movies. So... if you're in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, or Denver, look for LiveJournal commercials during those dates. I'll post a complete list of theaters tomorrow probably. We did this more for the cool factor than getting new users (new users keep coming anyway!), but if the reaction is good, maybe we'll be running more.

Invite codes
We've always wanted to remove invite codes but it's a big, scary change, so we've been slow about it. Since we initially added them, though, we've added: screened comments, moderated communities, anti-spam-bot protection, community invites, and a few other anti-abuse measures. The final one we've been working on (if you follow [info]lj_dev) is human tests: making users recognize a blurry word or distorted audio file before they can create a new account. This ensures accounts are made by humans and not spambots (which can't read blurry stuff or understand muddled audio). Anyway, we're rushing to finish that, and then the plan is to remove invite codes tomorrow or Friday morning. (the commercials gave us good motivation to finish by then)

But... we know people are divided on this issue, some wanting LiveJournal all open, and some wanting to keep it exclusive. Also, some people value their invite code collection, and would be offended if we devalued it by making them obsolete.

So, we have a plan. Users will be able to join LiveJournal without an invite code and have a "trial account" for 30 days. Trial accounts are identical to free accounts, except that after 30 days they won't be able to make new posts or comments unless they're either invited to stay by an existing user (with an invite code) or pay for a paid account. Paid accounts expire to free accounts (not trial accounts), so we're not forcing anybody to keep paying if they don't want the paid bonus stuff. Hopefully this is a fair compromise.
Update:</b> See our new plan, posted the next day.

Reliability
The fact that we're working on new code that's pretty much cosmetic stuff, running commercials (scary), and removing invite codes (even scarier), should make it clear that we're getting pretty confident in our backend now. The site's been generally zippy for the past couple weeks now. We've been watching everything closely and identified and fixed a few problems, but we're finally after months starting to relax. Read [info]lj_backend for all the fun details.



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[info]tocomfortyou
2003-12-10 06:41 pm UTC (link)
Gosh, you guys are productive! The new design is lovely.

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[info]labyrinthman
2003-12-10 06:42 pm UTC (link)
That invite code comprimise sounds pretty fair to me. Good job. Couldn't have been an easy decision at all.

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[info]sweetree
2003-12-10 06:54 pm UTC (link)
I love your userpic!!!

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(no subject) - [info]labyrinthman, 2003-12-10 06:57 pm UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]labyrinthman, 2003-12-10 07:12 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]sweetree, 2003-12-10 07:34 pm UTC (Expand)
I googled myself and saw this old comment. I'm sucha dork. :P - [info]badgerbadger, 2004-03-03 10:31 am UTC (Expand)
Re: I googled myself and saw this old comment. I'm sucha dork. :P - [info]labyrinthman, 2004-03-03 04:08 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]democritus, 2003-12-10 07:36 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]jaina
2003-12-10 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Ave Brad. :) Glad to hear all the good things.

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[info]e_richard
2003-12-10 06:43 pm UTC (link)
LJ Commercials? That I have to see! :D

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[info]coolstring
2003-12-10 11:21 pm UTC (link)
yeah! They should have them downloadable from the main page!

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(no subject) - [info]sessodio, 2003-12-11 01:25 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]skyknyt
2003-12-10 06:44 pm UTC (link)
That sounds like a fair compromise. I like it.

skye

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[info]joyitude
2003-12-10 06:44 pm UTC (link)
/me applauds
I like the idea about trial accounts. A lot.
/me wonders how many trial account "omg plz I need a coed!!11" communities are going to be created

Yes. Lovely job as always.

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[info]dreamstigmata
2003-12-10 07:00 pm UTC (link)
this is exactly what i was thinking.

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(no subject) - [info]lizardlaugh, 2003-12-10 08:34 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kshandra, 2003-12-10 09:07 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]road_emu, 2003-12-11 09:57 am UTC (Expand)
permanent accounts
[info]chuckmoulton
2003-12-10 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Will livejournal be selling permanent accounts again anytime soon?

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Re: permanent accounts
[info]flagster
2003-12-10 06:52 pm UTC (link)
I had the same question - I think it would be a cool way to celebrate such major changes and all the work that went into them ;o)

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Re: permanent accounts - [info]machineplay, 2003-12-10 07:10 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: permanent accounts - [info]penguinfairy, 2003-12-10 07:32 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: permanent accounts - [info]chuckmoulton, 2003-12-10 08:03 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: permanent accounts - [info]penguinfairy, 2003-12-10 08:23 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: permanent accounts - [info]chuckmoulton, 2003-12-10 08:59 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: permanent accounts - [info]vanbeast, 2003-12-11 01:48 am UTC (Expand)
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Re: permanent accounts - [info]chuckmoulton, 2003-12-11 11:31 am UTC (Expand)
Re: permanent accounts - [info]vanbeast, 2003-12-11 11:32 am UTC (Expand)
Re: permanent accounts - [info]duncanynd, 2003-12-15 08:41 am UTC (Expand)
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Re: permanent accounts - [info]chuckmoulton, 2003-12-11 11:33 am UTC (Expand)
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Re: permanent accounts - [info]snowwhitekryss, 2003-12-14 08:44 am UTC (Expand)

[info]supersat
2003-12-10 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Will the ads be shown in those cities or their surrounding areas? More specifically, do you know if they'll be played in Salem? I can't really justify going to a Regal Cinemas theatre in Seattle when Cinerama is playing it. ;)

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[info]bradfitz
2003-12-10 06:48 pm UTC (link)
It's only like 4-6 theaters per city, iirc. We didn't want to blow a lot of money on this.

It's at the Galleria in Bellevue, I remember. I'll post the full listing tomorrow or Friday.

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[info]thewendysguy
2003-12-10 06:45 pm UTC (link)
I think that the trial account for 30 days is an excellent compromise on the invite-code issue.

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[info]bandie528
2003-12-10 06:45 pm UTC (link)
the mood page looks great!

and good plan with the invite codes. i was just about to say "damn! but i have that list!" :D

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[info]breithiunas
2003-12-10 06:57 pm UTC (link)
the mood thing dont show ones you made yoursef tho

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(no subject) - [info]daveman692, 2003-12-10 08:31 pm UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]fyredarkle, 2003-12-12 01:57 am UTC (Expand)
WOW! Thanks...
[info]ironbutterfly08
2003-12-10 06:46 pm UTC (link)
for the great work! The new mood icons page is awesome!

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Re: WOW! Thanks...
[info]pinknblack21
2003-12-10 07:28 pm UTC (link)
Omg, that stuffed animal in your icon! I used to have that when i was around 4 years old. :B

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Re: WOW! Thanks... - [info]ironbutterfly08, 2003-12-11 09:19 am UTC (Expand)

[info]tyrsalvia
2003-12-10 06:47 pm UTC (link)
I wanted to point out that I have no speakers and cannot therefor recognize audio, garbled or not. Images are ok, though. So long as one or the other is an option, that's cool, but there are a lot of other people who have no audio too.

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[info]bradfitz
2003-12-10 06:48 pm UTC (link)
A lot of people have disabilities, so we'll be providing both. Users can choose.

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(no subject) - [info]tyrsalvia, 2003-12-10 06:50 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]rohandove
2003-12-10 06:48 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for all the stuff you have been adding, the features and the overall experience here. (especially the additional user pics) :)

I do have a question, and since it's happening with more than one of my friends I thought there may be a problem. Quite a few of us are having friends posts not show up on our friends page. There is nothing strange about the post, it just won't show up. You have to go to the person's actual LJ link to read the post.

Is this happening a lot overall?

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[info]ironbutterfly08
2003-12-10 06:56 pm UTC (link)
I'm no livejournal tech support person, but yeah, the same thing has been happening to a lot of other people.

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(no subject) - [info]kutsuwamushi, 2003-12-10 08:03 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]lothie
2003-12-10 06:49 pm UTC (link)
AWE. SUM.

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[info]etchah
2003-12-10 06:50 pm UTC (link)
What will happen to the usernames of the trial LJ accounts? Will they just stay in poor unloved username limbo or be recycled?

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[info]bokamba
2003-12-10 07:13 pm UTC (link)
This is my concern also. With the commercials, quite a few people will probably say "oh wow LiveJournal let me go home and sign up for an account right now ohboyohboyohboy," make an account and post one entry, then never come back. In cases like that, I'd hate to see the usernames reserved for longer than a few months in case the person wants to become a full member.

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[info]lopmonde
2003-12-10 06:50 pm UTC (link)
Just so I'm clear, current free users aren't going to lose their journals because of this are they? Like, they aren't going to turn into trial accounts and die after 30 days? You mentioned that paid accounts turn into free accounts when they expire, but current free users are still fine.. right?

Sorry if I missed the obvious answer. ^^;;;

*has a paid account, btw*

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[info]toast0
2003-12-10 07:04 pm UTC (link)
current free users have either been invited, or paid and expired, or were in before invite codes, so they'll be fine

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[info]nehalem03
2003-12-10 06:50 pm UTC (link)
LJ commercials on the portland big screen? Finally a reason to pay an outrageous price for a movie and sugar water!

Thanks!

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Love you guys!
[info]pinklobster
2003-12-10 06:50 pm UTC (link)
Wow... commercials??

Too bad I live far away from those areas and won't be able to see any. That's gotta be a trip.

I think the trade off for the invite codes is a fair deal.

You all rock my world. ^_^

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[info]corneliousjd
2003-12-10 06:51 pm UTC (link)
good job as always...

but i'm a bit confused... will our invite codes be useless now?...

and if they are - will paid/perm. accounts get any benefits in exchange from the invite codes?... =/

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[info]trips
2003-12-10 07:36 pm UTC (link)
Read again silly

"So, we have a plan. Users will be able to join LiveJournal without an invite code and have a "trial account" for 30 days. Trial accounts are identical to free accounts, except that after 30 days they won't be able to make new posts or comments unless they're either invited to stay by an existing user (with an invite code) or pay for a paid account. Paid accounts expire to free accounts (not trial accounts), so we're not forcing anybody to keep paying if they don't want the paid bonus stuff. Hopefully this is a fair compromise."

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(no subject) - [info]thistwistedfate, 2003-12-10 07:38 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]ashi_moto
2003-12-10 06:52 pm UTC (link)
Excellent compromise on the invite codes. ^.^

I look forward to seeing the commercials.

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[info]astraluna
2003-12-10 06:53 pm UTC (link)
So would free users be able to use the invite code from having a journal at least a week to invite themselves?

(at least... that's what I would do. ^__^;;)

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[info]astraluna
2003-12-10 06:54 pm UTC (link)
uh... I meant "TRIAL" users. The mistake is understandable, though. I mean the keys are right next to each other.

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[info]joshyjosh
2003-12-10 06:54 pm UTC (link)
you guys are awesome!

im glad to be a payed member

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[info]angelfluff
2003-12-12 07:22 pm UTC (link)
Your picture scares me.

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[info]neopetsdotcom
2003-12-10 06:54 pm UTC (link)
Ooh commercials!! :] I actually want to see, and I'm going to be seeing LOTR, but I'm in Canada (real useful yes ;)). Oh well ^_^ I like the invite code idea. I still have 2 and wouldn't want them to go to waste :Þ

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[info]khalidz0r
2003-12-10 06:54 pm UTC (link)
I like the idea of trial accounts, this sounds very nice.

However, I have a suggestion.

Aren't you thinking of a way to allow anonymous posters to identify themselves?

Now if you merge the two ideas together: The person gets a trial account, has free user access for 30 days, and after that thier journal gets locked and they still get access to comment and add friends/read etc.

This will make it more likely that a user will "get stuck" with LiveJournal for one, and then want to do what everybody else does and maintain a journal, thus pay. Additionally it would identify users, allow current LiveJournal users to give view access to protected entries to those who don't have "full accounts". It would reduce the need for anonymous comments extensively. It would do much good.

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[info]iamzeke
2003-12-10 07:40 pm UTC (link)
If I'm reading this right, you're saying that after their trial account expires they still have access to commenting and the like? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of an expiration?

Or am I mis-understanding that?

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(no subject) - [info]khalidz0r, 2003-12-10 07:50 pm UTC (Expand)
Nice - [info]0nn, 2003-12-10 08:11 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Nice - [info]khalidz0r, 2003-12-10 08:12 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Nice - [info]ablotial, 2003-12-11 10:04 am UTC (Expand)
I Like This Idea - [info]leafsfan, 2003-12-10 09:24 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]zasu, 2003-12-10 10:04 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]breithiunas
2003-12-10 06:55 pm UTC (link)
but if a "trial" user waits for the free code 7 days into the account then they get to keep it with no problem after teh 30 days is up

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[info]thegreatdane
2003-12-10 07:14 pm UTC (link)
good point

EXCLUSIVE!!!

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