Brad Fitzpatrick ([info]bradfitz) wrote in [info]news,
@ 2003-12-12 05:00:00
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Invite codes are gone
Love 'em or hate 'em, invite codes are now gone. [post1, post2]

We really just want to make everybody happy, and that's really hard. If we say we want to turn right, half the community asks, "why not left?". We can explain forever, but it's difficult following our long posts and replies in threads of 1000+ comments. So if you're not following everything, please trust us that when we choose one action or another, we're not intentionally leading the site into a fiery abyss of death, as many of the doomsday prophetizers keep suggesting. We have reasons for removing invite codes, and those reasons are not rooted in evil or ignorance. We want the site to keep being awesome. It started without invite codes and grew awesome, and it can continue to do so now without.

Invite codes were just a temporary crutch back when our server backend couldn't handle things. And then we came to rely on that crutch, afraid to let go.

Please, understand that we want this and we're ready for it. We have tons of extra hardware standing by. We have potential plans to deal with all the proposed upcoming problems, but we won't take any action until it's necessary. We don't want to change things just to change things. (We know that can be frustrating.) We're only going to be fixing actual problems, and invite codes were a problem.

That said, don't be surprised if new little problems pop up, as they always do. Don't freak out the first time a page takes a little too long to load. We're watching these things all the time, ready to fix whatever. Our server backend is very impressive these days. I actually sleep at night lately. We'll be able to handle the influx of new accounts. Even if we run into some minor flames on the way there, we're not going into the fiery abyss.... I won't let us. ;-)

Update, 1:50 pm PST: Wow... new accounts are being created 4 times faster than normal. Crazy. Oh, if you're in Seattle, Portland, Denver, or San Fran areas, here's the list of theaters where you can see the LiveJournal commercial starting today. (only one is playing in theaters, but we'll post them all online in MPEG and WMV formats soon....)



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[info]blue_cat
2003-12-12 05:06 am UTC (link)
Guess you guys know what you are doing :) I have grown quite addicted to LJ - few are my friends that don't have one! Actually I have 4, plus 2 communites. It will be quite good telling friends that they can just go sign up.

Great site, great work on it.

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[info]scrotumnose
2003-12-12 03:50 pm UTC (link)
on the whole i think this is a pretty good thing, and i also commend the great site and the great work on it.

with all of the new users though, won't it be harder to make a username for yourself?

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[info]babylonica
2003-12-12 05:07 am UTC (link)
I think it's about time. I had an account a LONG time ago, forgot the log in name (still wish I could remember) and then when I tried to make another account I couldn't get a darn code. So like a year later, I finally got one thanks to my friend Lindsay. I'm glad, yep, glad.

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[info]tonic2w
2003-12-16 05:29 am UTC (link)
I did the same exact thing and to this day I can't tell you what the password is and the email account everything for it went to is not longer in existance since I no longer have AOHELL.... Glad I'm not the only one who did that. LOL!

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[info]dougs
2003-12-12 05:07 am UTC (link)
I have to say this: Your [info]lj_backend posts make delightful reading. I've got confidence in the system, and I can't help but feel good about your team.

Well done and good luck.

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[info]bradfitz
2003-12-12 05:09 am UTC (link)
I enjoy writing them.

I used to just write them in news, until I realized most people didn't care. I think it's good to have news targetted at different audiences.

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Rah Rah Rah
[info]evilbigbrother
2003-12-12 05:07 am UTC (link)
Three cheers for LJ....

You and your crew have done good... I am a loyal and devoted fan...

Thank You =)

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Re: Rah Rah Rah
[info]lady_atma
2003-12-12 07:39 am UTC (link)
I agree with my friend on this. :D

You guys have done a great job and if it wasn't for you then we wouldn't have a community for my town. :D

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[info]thies
2003-12-12 05:27 am UTC (link)
Completely new? It's now back to how it used to be.

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[info]bradfitz
2003-12-12 05:09 am UTC (link)
Please elaborate.

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[info]3cankeepasecret
2003-12-12 05:08 am UTC (link)
first comment! woooot!

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[info]3cankeepasecret
2003-12-12 05:09 am UTC (link)
or 7th

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[info]crashboombang
2003-12-12 05:09 am UTC (link)
Doomsday? Drama queens :P>

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[info]alcarilinque
2003-12-13 11:51 am UTC (link)
There's already a lot of drama queens ;)

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[info]bokamba
2003-12-12 05:10 am UTC (link)
Are you offering a "cash for invite codes" buyback program? ;)

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[info]babylonica
2003-12-12 05:11 am UTC (link)
It'd do you some good to read the 2 posts about it that he linked to.

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[info]kaleidoscopeeye
2003-12-12 05:11 am UTC (link)
What is the plan for the invite codes that exist? Has a decision been made on that yet?

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[info]babylonica
2003-12-12 05:12 am UTC (link)
read the other posts about it!

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[info]klose
2003-12-12 05:11 am UTC (link)
I just want to make sure we're still going to be able to exchange codes for paid time... :P

Seriously though, I'd like to echo everyone else when I say that you guys have done a great job so far, and I didn't hesitate to get a paid account for another journal, because the service is just so worth it. :)

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[info]trillian42
2003-12-12 09:12 am UTC (link)
Ditto on both counts. I'd REALLY like to be able to exchange my 15 leftover codes for paid time. That would help my unemployed ass a lot right now.

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[info]popcultureicon
2003-12-12 05:11 am UTC (link)
keep up the good work, even if the doomspeakers are right, you guys will be able to handle it.

now if you could get to work on my idea of the option of having public posts time out to private, or friends only after two weeks.

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[info]carrieish
2003-12-12 07:51 am UTC (link)
oh, that would be very nice.

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[info]jessyta
2003-12-12 05:12 am UTC (link)
Just a suggestion...but next time you guys want to implement a plan and it's dependant on weather people like the idea, why not SAY THAT? Make it clear you want our input so you get input from people... rather then just announcing something WILL happen and then changing it 24 hours later.

This is the second time a fairly major change was announced in news only to have it scraped the next day (refering to the post limit fiasco). Announcing something WILL happen, and then the next day announcing something completely different will happen makes LiveJournal look exteemelt unorganized and unprofessional.

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[info]bradfitz
2003-12-12 05:19 am UTC (link)
Touché. :-)

In all honesty, the date just kinda snuck up on us. We had to remove invite codes by a certain date (today) and trial accounts seemed a little better than the old way, and solved a lot of the problems, so we felt it was at least a step in the right direction. What the community made clear was that it wasn't a big enough step. And we fixed it (quickly... within a day)

So look at the bright side: we listen to our users.

But you're right... we're not super professional. We don't really want to be, though. We just want to have fun and try to do the right thing, keeping people happy. In my experience, the "professional" companies aren't always that reputable, often working hard to screw their customers out of money and rights. We don't want to be professional, if people automatically associate us with that.

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[info]bexii
2003-12-12 05:12 am UTC (link)
You smell....really bad. :(
BUT WOOOOOO I GOT HERE FIRST! EVERYONE ELSE CAN SUFFER! YEH! GO ME!

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[info]flashfire
2003-12-12 07:01 am UTC (link)
You thought you did, at least.

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[info]slowdanceonme
2003-12-12 05:13 am UTC (link)
This is a great development. Thumbs up ^.^ I know so many people who have wanted a livejournal for awhile.. they'll be thrilled to hear this.

-jade-

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[info]cierrablue
2003-12-12 05:14 am UTC (link)
It's madness, MADNESS I TELL YOU!

Heck, if it doesn't work out, the invite codes can always be reinstated.

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[info]blurredyearning
2003-12-12 11:24 am UTC (link)
Bingo.

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[info]morehardercore
2003-12-12 05:16 am UTC (link)
about time you ditched the "exclusive club for cool people only" deal

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[info]etherpunk
2003-12-12 06:18 am UTC (link)
It's never been about that.

It was always about making sure the system could handle the number of users that were signing up for accounts.

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[info]ha_sirreal_ck
2003-12-12 05:16 am UTC (link)
Being a paid member, I took into account ALL of the extra add ons that come with a membership. Invite codes were up there. I was excited that I could give them to friends of mine and have them become part of LJ, and in the end when I clicked SUBMIT to pay for my order (which is an extremely reasonable price) I was the most excited about the invite codes.

That said, I'm not disappointed at all in your decision, because as I send I bought a membership because of ALL of the extra add ons. Not until I joined did I fully realize the various other options one isn't aware of until they join. Knowing what I know now about LJ, your great support, and your fantastic product, if I started all over again Invite codes would be one of those miniscule extras that would make me smile a bit more.

I understand the need for change and welcome it. Keep up the fantastic job, and happy holidays :)

-Dan

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[info]jojobear99
2003-12-12 10:30 am UTC (link)
I hear rumors that they are trying to think up some way to make invite codes redeemable toward something else as of yet to be determined such as extra paid time, to try and make up for that exact issue :) I hope someone comes up with a great idea there

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[info]iamzeke
2003-12-12 05:17 am UTC (link)
I guess [info]lj_biz will update with information about what extra features you're putting in place to limit spammers/trolls? The discussions that were over there were quite interesting on the "karma" ideas...

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[info]kate_nepveu
2003-12-12 05:18 am UTC (link)
I actually sleep at night lately.

Now _that's_ a testament. =>

Well, this paid user trusts you all, anyway--keep up the thoughtful work.

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[info]angelwithasword
2003-12-12 05:18 am UTC (link)
we're not going into the fiery abyss.... I won't let us. ;-)

I love you Brad! :-*

No, seriously, thanks for all the work you put into this!

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Invite Codes
[info]neo_prodigy
2003-12-12 05:18 am UTC (link)
I sort of liked the invite codes because it was a sense of community and the fact that anyone just couldn't get in start a site, get bored and that be the end of it.

But I also remember that it wasn't that long ago that I wanted to join Live Journal but I didn't know anyone to invite me onboard. So I felt left out.

If the powers that be at Live Journal strongly believe that removing the invite codes is for the best, then I will both respect and trust their judgment.

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Re: Invite Codes
[info]kibbles
2003-12-12 05:59 am UTC (link)
The original reasons for them had to do with the server overload. Not so much bout community or whatever. They didn't always have them.

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[info]dokuza
2003-12-12 05:18 am UTC (link)
Mmhmm, we all know why you really took away invite codes.

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[info]bradfitz
2003-12-12 05:20 am UTC (link)
Do share.

Is there a new conspiracy theory floating around?

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[info]mistressemma
2003-12-12 05:19 am UTC (link)
i am sad.
mainly because i don't want lj to turn into another opendiary.com ... do we know what that would mean for us? it would mean that this place would suck just as much. and that is bad. :(

don't get me wrong, i adore lj. i have been here for almost a year and without this place, i would've gone insane.. so thank you so much for having this place here to begin with. i just don't want this place to get all clogged up with shitty drama queen 13 year olds that will give everyone a hard time.

i am keeping my fingers crossed that everything is going to go the right way. i am not happy with this whole change thing, but i will support it.

goodluck guys.
<3

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[info]bradfitz
2003-12-12 05:22 am UTC (link)
Holy hell... I just looked at opendiary and almost had a seizure.

We will not turn into that.

Read our social contract:
http://www.livejournal.com/site/contract.bml

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[info]croobies
2003-12-12 05:19 am UTC (link)
great idea, both on ditching the invite codes and on what to do with all the left-over codes!

community feel? I had more random people IM me for codes than I had friends who wanted to start journals.. ;)

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[info]rivulet
2003-12-12 05:36 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm not sure how a million other people with you on LJ can feel like a community anyway. :)

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